Can you guys please stop using "going forward", this awful marketroid phrase? It's bad enough that we have to endure it in every press release these days. Why does it have to show up on enthusiast news sites now? What is wrong with "in the future" or "in future products" etc. ?
Or am I the only reader annoyed by this? If so, carry on... :(
people will fall for it, I guarantee it!
and knowing the crappy board manufacturers like powercolour and below will stick in cheapest and slowest ram available too = 250mhz ddr2 or something.
they might also lower the clock speeds if their crappy heatsinks are unable to cope with the 600mhz
I'm not sure, but do consumers equate more video memory capacity like they once did (and probably still do) processor clock speed? There's absolutely no use for 256 MB video memory, let alone 512 MB on these cards. They should be increasing things like TMUs, pipelines, etc. and actually make the card worthwhile.
I agree....ATI has made a mess of its low and mid range cards in the latest generation....they seriously need to add more pipelines or something, otherwise they are going to lose a lot of market share to nVidia......i would rather buy an x800 series if i went ATI
I was waiting too, but since NV 6150 came out I think I will just skip the Express 200.
I ATI is really have problems get thier stuff to market. I swore I would get the new Express months before the 6150.
If the SB450 version is what your waiting on I believe I remember seeing a couple boards with those southbridges. MSI I think was one. Maybe check out newegg and see what they have to offer now.
Yes, I've been waiting on the SB600. But, now that I know the 6150 boards are trickling out I may just go that route. I've been very happy with ATI video cards for many years, usually run All in Wonders, and I'm very happy with my daughter's Xpress 200 board (MSI RS480M2-IL. But her needs are not my needs. Maybe now is the time to switch, I don't think the SB600 chipsets will be out for some time.
The new Asus and MSI Crossfire are both shipping with the ULi M1575 south bridge, which has SATA2, and fully competetive USB. We have both boards in for testing. The upcoming Abit Corssfire also uses the ULi M1575 South Bridge.
I have to admit, I'd been chomping at the bit for Xpress 200 boards, but so far I'm using only K8M800 and GeForce 6100 boards. ATI just isn't delivering...
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h7o - Saturday, November 12, 2005 - link
Any word on the ati's mobility gpus for this generation? Will they be shipping with yonah in january?Palek - Thursday, November 10, 2005 - link
Can you guys please stop using "going forward", this awful marketroid phrase? It's bad enough that we have to endure it in every press release these days. Why does it have to show up on enthusiast news sites now? What is wrong with "in the future" or "in future products" etc. ?Or am I the only reader annoyed by this? If so, carry on... :(
Wesleyrpg - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
512mb on a low end card? something aint right! whats the point??? i mean....128mb would be fine on a low end card!!!!Wouldn't they be better off using the extra money they'll be saving on things like more pipelines, vertex shaders etc.
I hope people don't fall for the more memory = better performance route!
Clauzii - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
If the cards have more onboard memory, it´s better for antialiazing?And if we are lucky the OC to 600 on the GPU?
Hmm... I think both N and A puts to many GCs out at the moment, but so does the whole computer industry -everybody wants a bit of the cake...
KristopherKubicki - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
I am not sure if you have seen this gem before:
http://labs.anandtech.com/search.php?q=512mb+6200">http://labs.anandtech.com/search.php?q=512mb+6200
Kristopher
ViRGE - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
*cry*At the spec 6200 memory speeds(550*8bytes), that card can only access the entire 512MB 8 times a second.
xsilver - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
people will fall for it, I guarantee it!and knowing the crappy board manufacturers like powercolour and below will stick in cheapest and slowest ram available too = 250mhz ddr2 or something.
they might also lower the clock speeds if their crappy heatsinks are unable to cope with the 600mhz
tfranzese - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
I'm not sure, but do consumers equate more video memory capacity like they once did (and probably still do) processor clock speed? There's absolutely no use for 256 MB video memory, let alone 512 MB on these cards. They should be increasing things like TMUs, pipelines, etc. and actually make the card worthwhile.My .02
hosto - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
I agree....ATI has made a mess of its low and mid range cards in the latest generation....they seriously need to add more pipelines or something, otherwise they are going to lose a lot of market share to nVidia......i would rather buy an x800 series if i went ATIksherman - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
thats a lot of RAMOrSin - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
I was waiting too, but since NV 6150 came out I think I will just skip the Express 200.I ATI is really have problems get thier stuff to market. I swore I would get the new Express months before the 6150.
BPB - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
I'm still waiting for the updated southbridge so I can get me an Express 200 based board. Though I am beginning to get impatient.formulav8 - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
If the SB450 version is what your waiting on I believe I remember seeing a couple boards with those southbridges. MSI I think was one. Maybe check out newegg and see what they have to offer now.Jason
johnsonx - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
no, he's waiting for the SB600... the SB450 only fixed some of the SB400's shortcomings.BPB - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
Yes, I've been waiting on the SB600. But, now that I know the 6150 boards are trickling out I may just go that route. I've been very happy with ATI video cards for many years, usually run All in Wonders, and I'm very happy with my daughter's Xpress 200 board (MSI RS480M2-IL. But her needs are not my needs. Maybe now is the time to switch, I don't think the SB600 chipsets will be out for some time.Wesley Fink - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
The new Asus and MSI Crossfire are both shipping with the ULi M1575 south bridge, which has SATA2, and fully competetive USB. We have both boards in for testing. The upcoming Abit Corssfire also uses the ULi M1575 South Bridge.BPB - Thursday, November 10, 2005 - link
That's great. Any chance a non-Crossfire Xpress 200 board with an updated southbridge (SB600 or ULi M1575) will be reviewed?johnsonx - Wednesday, November 9, 2005 - link
I have to admit, I'd been chomping at the bit for Xpress 200 boards, but so far I'm using only K8M800 and GeForce 6100 boards. ATI just isn't delivering...